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October 17, 2007

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Remington R-15: The Newest AR

If you haven’t heard the news, Remington Arms was recently acquired by Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity management company. (It’s the same company that bought Chrysler from Daimler-Benz). Cerberus also owns Bushmaster, and gun fans been waiting to see signs of “synergy” between the two firearms manufacturers.

At a recent Remington new product seminar, the company unveiled the first such venture--the new R-15 VTR Modular Repeating Rifle. Fans of the AR platform will instantly see the Bushmaster heritage at work. This is an important product launch for Big Green, as it really needs to start offering some new products. That’s no knock on the 870 or Model 700, but you can’t grow a company by constantly going to the same two wells.

The basic idea of the R-15 VTR is to bring a sporting focus to the black gun market. As such, the new rifle will be offered in three configurations--the Predator, Predator Carbine and Predator Carbine CS (collapsible stock) in two calibers—the .223 and Ruger .204—and will retail for $1,145. The three platforms (all in Advantage Max-1 HD camo) will feature button-rifled, fluted barrels with recessed hunting crowns. The uppers and lowers are machined from aluminum forgings and all will carry the Remington name. The free-floating fore-end tube is drilled and tapped for accessory rails and all rifles come with a five-round magazine box and a lockable hard case.

The Predator Rifle and Predator Carbine have a fixed stock and pistol grip. The difference between the two is barrel length; the rifle has a 22-inch barrel, the carbine has an18-incher. The Predator Carbine CS will offer the same features as the carbine, but comes with a collapsible stock.

One last point. During the presentation on new ammo, Remington unveiled a .223 Premier Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded 62-grain cartridge that delivers 14.7 inches of penetration while retaining 96 percent of its weight. The moment the slide hit the screen I heard a couple of writers murmur “deer.” The Remington spokesman didn’t say the cartridge was specifically designed for deer, but indicated that yes, it could be used for that purpose.

Something to think about.

Slaton White



While I fully UNDERSTAND that people have the right to own AR's, I still have to say I've shot them in the past and don't feel any compulsion to own an AR made by any company. It's just not my deal.

Having said that, I wish Remington the best with their new venture and will agree that repackaging 870's, 1100's and 700's can only be done so many times and still keep a company profitable.


Remington does have a lot riding on this launch as the 105 has been riddled with problems and owners sending the guns in for repair.

The 870 is a perfect example of remingtons problems. Today's Mossbergs 500 is nicer (in fit and finish)than the express models and the wingmasters are $200-250 more than a Browning BPS.

It's hard to believe Remington can't sell a field grade wingmaster w/ walnut furniture and either nice bluing or one of the new weather proof coatings for the same money browning gets for a bps ($425.00).

I know Browning imports the BPS, but the Japanese have a very similar life style (from a cost of living standpoint) and shipping isn't free from Japan.

The last two 870 expresses I've owned were poorly built. The laminate stock didn't fit well to the receiver and the finish on it was very thin.

The synthetic express' forearm was poorly installed and rubbed the finish off the receiver after very light use and the stock came loose after a very few shots too.

Both problems were things that should have been caught @ the factory.

I hope Remington gets their ducks in a row. It's a great brand name in firearms and I hope that they can get it back to where it was. Until then, I'll not purchase another one.


Put a couple cases of shells through a Mossberg 500 before you give it praise.

mike gray

When will Remington come out with the R15 in .450 Bushmaster? Now I could live with the camo package in a caliber suitable for deer/bear?


I'd have to agree with jstreet on the Mossberg. I purchased the 535 Waterfowl/Turkey combo last year. I wasn't impressed. Two big problems with it. The loose wooden plug actually works its way between the tube spring and the tube. Once its all tangled up, there's no east way to fix it in the field. There's no end cap. instead, a bolt holds the barrel to the end of the mag tube. I didn't even get through a box of shells before the tube stopped feeding while I was duck hunting... The try and deal with mossberg on the issue. Believe me, you're better off pi**ing in the wind.

In short, I wish I bought the remington 870 magnum combo instead... Friend of mine has one. Ya, it might not be flashy, but it shoots...


Can the R-15 handle NATO 5.56?